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 01-30-2021, 12:35 PM | #1 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Engine Faults On Force HD Lately our 2019 Force HD engine has been starting sluggishly after sitting for a week or more. I also get get some fault messages on the dashboard. I am guessing this may be due to battery issues. I live in San Antonio, so it doesnt get really cold here. |
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| 01-30-2021, 01:07 PM | #2 |
MasterBlaster Retired Army Paratrooper Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Enterprise Alabama Posts: 894 | Quote: Originally Posted by Cactus Canyon Lately our 2019 Force HD engine has been starting sluggishly after sitting for a week or more. I also get get some fault messages on the dashboard. I am guessing this may be due to battery issues. I live in San Antonio, so it doesnt get really cold here. What is the code? __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 01:09 PM | #3 |
milkman55 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canyon Lake, Texas Posts: 1,824 | Do you keep it plugged in when not in use? Maybe the Force is different, but on my Isata 5, the battery disconnect does not disconnect the chassis battery, only the house batteries. I keep mine plugged into a 15amp power at all times when stored and the charger keeps both the house and chassis batteries in good shape. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 01:47 PM | #4 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Yes. I keep it plugged in to 20 amp at home when not in use. I think this charges only the house batteries. I have two shut offs. One for the house and one for the truck. Doesnt seem like these are battery errors, but the only thing that seems to be wrong is a sluggish start when it hasnt been started in a while. |
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| 01-30-2021, 03:40 PM | #5 |
milkman55 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canyon Lake, Texas Posts: 1,824 | The BIRD charges both the House and Chassis batteries. See this document. Also, search the forum Titles Only for keyword BIRD and you will get a wealth of information. The BIRD solenoid is know to go out frequently and some have moved to the BIM which is what is in all the newer models. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 04:47 PM | #6 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Great info. Its going to the dealer tomorrow for some other issues, and I will certainly add this to the list. |
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| 01-30-2021, 04:57 PM | #7 |
houstonstroker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 801 | My Force HD stays plugged in 24/7 at my storage unit. I hit the disconnect by the drivers seat and by the front door. The BIRD will keep both sets of batteries charged. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 05:13 PM | #8 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Just to be sure, the BIRD works with normal household current of 15 or 20 amps? |
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| 01-30-2021, 05:15 PM | #9 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | And it will still charge the coach batteries even if the disconnect by the drivers seat is used? |
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| 01-30-2021, 05:37 PM | #10 |
milkman55 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canyon Lake, Texas Posts: 1,824 | I had the Isata 3 for three years and now the Isata 5 for one year. I am always plugged into 15 amp and I never use the battery disconnect. If you are plugged in you should not need the battery disconnect at all. I have never had even a low battery in four years following this method. What dealer are you using for service? Where they the selling dealer? __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 05:42 PM | #11 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Holiday World in Katy. Bought it there and have been using them for service. |
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| 01-30-2021, 05:58 PM | #12 |
milkman55 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canyon Lake, Texas Posts: 1,824 | My money is on a bad BIRD. If you are still under warranty, then they will probably replace with the same thing. If you are paying, I would swap to the new BIM they are using on all the newer RVs. Our 2017 Isata 3 had the BIRD and our 2021 Isata 5 has the BIM. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:02 PM | #13 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Does the BIM work with AGM batteries, or do you need lithium? |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:05 PM | #14 |
milkman55 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canyon Lake, Texas Posts: 1,824 | The BIM is for AGM batteries. They have a Li-BIM that is made for lithium batteries. Same mfg for all of them. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:06 PM | #15 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Thanks. Ill see what they say about warranty. |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:11 PM | #16 |
milkman55 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canyon Lake, Texas Posts: 1,824 | Over two RVs and four years, I have yet to need to go to a dealer for service. I was thinking Holiday World would be where I would head if a need ever arises. I tend to do small things myself. If I ever had a really major issue, I would head to the factory. My selling dealer is further away than the factory. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:14 PM | #17 |
houstonstroker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 801 | A simple check with a meter will tell you if the BIRD is working. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:14 PM | #18 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Im jealous. Most of this stuff is way beyond my technical and physical ability. |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:20 PM | #19 |
houstonstroker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 801 | Well if you were closer to Houston I would help you out. __________________ |
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| 01-30-2021, 06:23 PM | #20 |
Cactus Canyon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 246 | Truly appreciate that. |
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